Drunk in the Spirit
Filled with the Spirit
It all looks the same…..or does it??
All of the scripture used to support being drunk in the spirit is taken out of context and losses its original true meaning. I’ve found a generic, very typical, article supporting being drunk in the spirit. It typifies the cherry picked scriptures and the justification for this manifestations to be allowed in the churches. Also included is a video clip of one of the considered “fathers” who helped birth it in the church. Kenneth Hagin. The links will be listed at the end.
Here are some of the most “popular” misused scriptures twisted to support it. Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, where in is excess; but be filled with the Spirit. If we read this verse in context, what we find is that throughout (verses 1 – 18) the scriptures, they are giving examples of the polar opposites i.e the life of followers of God and the children of disobedience. And to be not partakers with them, vs. 6&7
Let no man deceive you with wain words: for because of these things comes the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not therefore partakers with them.
- vs. 8 sometimes darkness – now you are light
- vs. 11 no fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness- rather reprove them
- Vs.14 awake thou that sleepest, arise from the dead – Christ shall give you light
- Vs. 15 walk circumspectly – not as fools – but wise
- Vs. 16 redeeming the time – days are evil
- Vs. 17 be NOT unwise – but understanding the will of the Lord
- VS. 18 NOT drunk with wine – filled with the Spirit
A quote from the article is : “But what I’m highlighting here is the phenomenological similarities between being drunk in the Spirit and being drunk with wine.”
Honestly there are no similarities; as is pointed out by the very definitions of drunk and filled do not be drunk: intoxicate be drunken and especially look at what follows “where in is excess”
Excess: (Strongs) properly unsavedness, excess, riot. Thayer definition; an abandoned, dissolute life. Now let’s compare that with “but be filled with the Spirit.”
Filled: to make replete, to cram, level up, to furnish, satisfy, execute, finish, accomplish, complete supply, perfect.
So how can one compare drunk, an abandoned, dissolute life to being filled, complete, supply perfect, satisfy etc. as being anything alike and or especially looking anything alike? They are polar opposites.
Nowhere in any of the content is it recommending that we mimic the things that are works of darkness but rather reprove them. We don’t imitate dead men but rather arise in Christ, nor darkness but light, nor fools but wise. Get the picture? NOR drunk but filled with the Spirit. One last point to make in context also: If we read verse 19, after verse 18 tells us to be filled with the Spirit. Verse 19 gives us what that really looks like. Eph.5:19-20 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord. Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Not with slurred words, staggering’s and hysterical laughter.
Another quote from the article Acts 2:1-13 – Pentecost
“But others mocking said, ‘They are filled with new wine.’”
“The first place I want to look is Acts on the day of Pentecost. The Holy Spirit is prophetically poured out powerfully on the believers at the time. What happens is that “they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.” Furthermore, the crowd gathers around them and mocks them first with amazement. But the second observation they note is striking to me.”
It says, “Others mocked them saying, ‘They are filled with new wine’” (2:13). Even Peter would later respond to this accusation by saying “These are people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day” (2:15).
What an interesting way to describe the filling of the Holy Spirit, that the apostles were “drunk”. When you think of a group of people being drunk, even across different cultures, I think you can imagine the same scene–probably a boisterous, tipsy, and chaotic scene. I can imagine them falling over, being a little light headed, and laughing, intoxicated with the influence of the wine.”
So if we are to believe the “mockers” also note that he says the crowd gathers around them and mocks first with amazement.” That’s not what the scripture says. There were at least two different groups spoken of those that were “amazed and were in doubt, saying one to another, what does this mean?” (vs. 12) And “Others mocking said, these men are full of new wine.”
Let’s suppose for a moment that we should take into account what the mockers said and implement it as the charismania’s have; only across the board. If it’s necessary to imitate what the mockers speak as being from God then shouldn’t we also prophesy by way of what the mockers do and say, as in Luke 22:63 “And when they had blindfolded him they struck him on the face, and asked him saying, Prophesy, who is it that smote thee?”
I’ve yet to find any in the charismania movement that practice this type of prophesying ….wonder why??
As for any comments concerning the video with Kenneth Hagin, I think that it pretty much speaks for itself as proof that drunk in the spirit was not something that happened on the day of Pentecost with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. What they have done and continue to do by imitating what the mockers said at Pentecost is exactly that, by being deceived themselves buying into the lie they continue to, with their behavior and false teaching, themselves mock the Holy Spirit and God. They indeed have become the mockers. Nowhere in scripture are we to take what mockers say into account and imitate that. It’s utter garbage.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived: God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.